Civil War 2.0 Weather Report – Worse Than You Think

“You were right, Smith. You’re always right. It was inevitable.” – The Matrix: Revolutions

Right now it feels like we’re watching a slow-motion video of a wreck that’s getting ready to happen. We know it’s going to happen, but have no idea how to stop it as physics makes it inevitable.

  1. People actively avoid being near those of opposing ideology. Might move from communities or states just because of ideology.
  2. Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.
  3. Opposing sides develop governing/war structures. Just in case.
  4. Common violence that is generally deemed by governmental authorities as justified based on ideology.
  5. Open War.

We are in the gray zone between step 9. and step 10. I will maintain the clock at 2 minutes to midnight. Violence continues to be commonly justified by local and state authorities, but there are now premeditated, fatal attacks by the Left. As noted in a previous update, the only thing keeping the clock ticking to full midnight is the number of deaths.

In this issue: Front Matter – Being Out In Front – Violence And Censorship Update – Updated Civil War 2.0 Index – You Have No Idea – Links

Welcome to the latest issue of the Civil War II Weather Report. These posts are different than the other posts at Wilder Wealthy and Wise and consist of smaller segments covering multiple topics around the single focus of Civil War 2.0, on the first or second Monday of every month. I’ve created a page (LINK) for links to all of the past issues. Also, feel free to subscribe and you’ll get every post delivered to your inbox, M-W-F at 7:30 Eastern.

Being Out In Front

When I started doing these updates, I wondered if I was being too pessimistic. In part, the original scale was developed based on personal experience – I had visited a “blue” state a few years ago on summer vacation.

A man, apparently looking at birds in a little-used state monument, saw us drive in. He trained his binoculars on our license plate. “Lower-upper Midwestia, eh?” he yelled. “Yes,” I responded.

“Who’d you vote for?” Unusual, but, whatever.

“Well, his name starts with a T,” I replied, grinning.

It puts the donkey in the pit, or a lifetime of communism it will get.

He then proceeded to call me a name for a portion of the anatomy that was the first thing people panicked about when COVID-19 hit and everyone bought all of that toilet paper.

“What did you say?”

“You heard me.” He then repeated the anatomical description and then scurried, rat-like into his SUV.

The Mrs. had gone to the little bathroom at the historical site, and had missed the interaction. I’m glad. She would have broken him like a stick. She always handles my light work.

But this was a significant data point. Never in my life had I been attacked, in public, for no reason other than my ballot. For most of my life, political differences had been a path to amusing conversations among friends. We had considered moving to this state. Why would we, though, when people acted like that? And now, people are moving out of California for the same reason we didn’t move to that blue state.

Once upon a time, we could talk about our political disagreements and still be friends. That worked, because even though there were things we disagreed about, we agreed about most things. Now? Leftists have largely abandoned the things that made us Americans. We have nothing to say to each other.

Seriously, The Mrs. would have broken him in the most embarrassing thirty seconds of his life.

When a stranger will insult you in public over nothing more than your ballot? The time of violence is close.

Violence And Censorship Update

Last month I put forth the criteria (from the literature I could find) that 1,000 was the number of deaths that signified a civil war. There was at least one great comment that made the point that we were already there and the 1,000 death minimum was arbitrary.

It is. But we have to have something, even if it’s arbitrary. The last I could find, there were 50 documented deaths due to the protest as listed by the Washington Post. My bet is that number is too low. It doesn’t, for instance, add in the numbers of dead due to rampant lawlessness in cities where BLM®/Antifa™ have taken root and taken over.

Not all of those “excess” murders are political, but a lot more are than I think are currently being admitted. Although it’s unscientific, I’d put the number of deaths closer to 150 than 50, but no one is tallying them.

On the censorship front, Facebook® has announced that no political ads will be run in the United States the week prior to the election. Facebook© has been removing points that differ from the “official” line about medical opinions, many of which have varied significantly throughout 2020.

Always wondered why the people in Hong Kong are holding American flags and are against censorship, while Antifa© are burning American flags and demanding censorship.

Perhaps the biggest censorship has been elimination of all Facebook™ posts expressing support for Kyle Rittenhouse, who in my opinion was exercising his right of self-defense. The same is true for virtually every major Internet funding service where Kyle’s supporters have tried to get monetary support for him. In the end, at last check they nearly have enough money for his bail. Yet Gofundme® regularly funds people accused of murder. But not witchcraft or self-defense.

They have to have a line somewhere.

Updated Civil War II Index

The Civil War II graphs are an attempt to measure four factors that might make Civil War II more likely, in real-time. They are broken up into Violence, Political Instability, Economic Outlook, and Illegal Alien Crossings. As each of these is difficult to measure, I’ve created for three of the four metrics some leading indicators that lead to the index. On illegal aliens, I’m just using government figures.

Violence:

Up is more violent. The public “perception” of violence keeps dropping over time, in part (my opinion) is that people are now expecting violence, and the sight of burning buildings and riots in the street are just accepted in September of 2020 – I don’t think there’s anyone (besides CNN®) that would say that September was more peaceful than April 2020, but if you look at the graph, we’ve just become used to constant political violence from the Left.

Political Instability:

Up is more unstable. Instability was up in September. I think there’s a really growing feeling among the people on the Left that Trump will win, and that would be the scariest thing that they can imagine. Well, that and getting real jobs.

Economic:

Down indicates worse economic conditions, are up significantly. I wrote last month that I expected a decline through October. Oops. This is why you don’t trust me with your money. But I think the numbers are juiced – I think that the unemployment numbers are artificially low, perhaps significantly so. And I’m expecting the markets to drop off a cliff. Sometime soon.

Illegal Aliens:

Down is good, in theory. This is a statistic showing border apprehensions by the Border Patrol. Numbers of illegals being caught is rising again – it’s at higher than all but one of the last five years. Even if it’s bad here, it’s worse south of the border.

You Have No Idea

. . . how bad it can get.

One thing that history has proven is that the most difficult conflicts are civil wars. They are generally unrestrained in the level of brutality. Why? Unlike war objectives such as wanting Ukraine for extra storage for lawn furniture or wanting Spain to just shut up, already, civil war objectives are personal.

Just saying, you can store a LOT of patio furniture in the Ukraine.

You can see that in Antifa®, especially. I’ve written a lot about them, and I’ve made an effort to really try to understand their mentality. I wrote a post specifically about that, and it’s one of my favorites (Why Would Anyone Become A Leftist?). For Antifa™, it’s personal. Very personal. As Sam Hyde said,

“When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.”

One thing that was memorable to me was when I was reading Concerned American over at the excellent Western Rifle Shooters Association (LINK) was when he said that he thought that no one over fifty would live through the coming crisis.

A statement that stark took me by surprise. It’s not that he’s wrong – I don’t know that he is. But it brought home to me that the potential for damage in the coming few years dwarfs anything that has ever happened in the United States.

Be aware. Prepare. Be in the safest place you can be.

LINKS

The links are, once again, all from Ricky, as are the headers. You have no idea how much I appreciate that on nights when I post.

Inside America, bloodlust rises, infecting one-in-three…

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/business-leaders-who-reject-woke-culture-be-first-people-lined-against-wall-and-shot

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/01/political-violence-424157

https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2020/09/facebook-can-cause-civil-war-because-of-its-additive-nature.html

Outside of America, foreigners watch us go over the cliff…

https://medium.com/indica/i-lived-through-collapse-america-is-already-there-ba1e4b54c5fc

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/america-could-be-heading-towards-a-second-civil-war,14306

https://www.thenational.ae/world/the-americas/us-becomes-cauldron-for-civil-conflict-as-election-draws-closer-1.1083305

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-media-is-rooting-for-civil-war-in-america

The right wing is the problem?!?

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/portland-killing-trump-caravan-civil-war-20200830.html

https://signalscv.com/2020/09/jonathan-kraut-an-undeclared-civil-war-in-america/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/11/long-dangerous-history-far-rights-calls-violence-civil-war/

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/08/30/white-supremacists-are-invading-american-cities-to-incite-a-civil-war/

Left wing Marxism is the solution!?!

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/09/09/pers-s09.html

Anderson Cooper/CNN is clueless!?!

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/you-really-believe-that-anderson-cooper-stunned-when-tom-friedman-predicts-america-on-the-brink-of-potential-second-civil-war/

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/518142-thomas-friedman-to-cnn-us-potentially-heading-to-second-civil-war

Videos…

https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-beck-special/the-lefts-color-revolution-playbook?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

https://www.loudersound.com/news/us-prog-rockers-crack-the-sky-release-video-for-another-civil-war

https://youtu.be/bkqLeECebao

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kyle-rittenhouses-defense-team-bolsters-self-defense-case-new-viral-footage

Opinions…(are like, um, AR-15s – everybody’s got one)

https://www.michiganadvance.com/2020/09/17/gop-senate-nominee-john-james-america-is-close-to-a-civil-war/

https://madison.com/ct/opinion/mailbag/dave-wester-we-are-on-the-edge-of-civil-war/article_ef3551b4-eac3-5a24-a5d1-9c1af0879595.html

https://www.southplattesentinel.com/2020/09/25/is-civil-war-upon-us/

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/09/24/lte-letter-to-the-editor-our-refusal-to-set-aside-differences-is-another-civil-war-in-the-making/#.X2_dGGhKhnI

https://www.columbiadailyherald.com/story/opinion/columns/2020/09/02/rowland-civil-war-real-possibility/5690696002/

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-09-05/A-civil-war-right-around-the-corner-TxvB9wXJMA/index.html

https://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/opinion/columns/column-will-it-be-civil-discourse-or-civil-war/article_55fc01bc-52cf-5f9b-a480-da28c8bfaec9.html

Deep(er) dives on why….

https://world.wng.org/2020/09/the_path_to_civil_war

https://dailyreckoning.com/civil-war-two/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16542/transition-integri

https://newrepublic.com/article/159172/united-states-break-up

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/22/disunited-states-could-a-second-civil-war–and-an-end-to-the-union–really-happen/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/america-political-violence-risk/2020/09/11/be924628-f388-11ea-999c-67ff7bf6a9d2_story.html

The Official CW2 Uniform…

https://camobags.auctivacommerce.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=1844161

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94 thoughts on “Civil War 2.0 Weather Report – Worse Than You Think”

  1. I am going through some of the same links for a post about the apparent not just willingness but eagerness of many to start shooting each other. The Politico argument is getting a lot of play but it is interesting that people on the Right expressing a willingness to engage in violence depending on the result of the election is conflated with people on the Left already engaging in wanton violence before we even have the election.

    More and more each day I am convinced that a) this election will be completely fraudulent and b) short of a massive win by Biden and a quick concession by Trump, people are going to die in the days following the election.

    We are in a banana republic.

    1. And that’s it. Since Bush II, presidential elections have been a mess. And we’re making them worse with the mail-in nonsense.

      I think you should have to appear in person and donate two pints of blood to vote, unless you’re in the military. Early voting is okay, but mail in?

      Never.

      1. I agree John. Mail in voting invites a lot of fraud. All the stops will be pulled out. At least with absentee voting, people requesting ballots will be checked with the Board of Elections. Still, you have to hope the ballot gets back to them. I just read an article from NJ where a mail carrier was tossing out mail. Over 900 ballots were among the mail he threw away.

        1. I’ve read at least six articles about mail in ballots gone missing and they’ve ALL been republican ballots. The postal union is demoncratic.

        2. If this sticks to traditional “blue” states it’s less of an issue. I worry about swinging PA, WI, FL, etc.

  2. John – – You listed as a reference in the “deeper dives” section the following link:

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article210807.html

    It was written by some Frenchman and translated into English.

    Your “researcher” should have immediately rejected it’s use as a reference because it is TOTALLY WRONG about how the Electoral College is intended to work. The writer says, among lots of stupid ideas, that the various state Governors appoint/select the Electors.

    He then goes on to state that Thomas Jefferson drafted the provisions in our Constitution about the Electoral College and its functioning. It was Benjamin Franklin who proposed them while Jefferson was sitting in Paris as the US Ambassador to France.

    TOTALLY B..S. article ! Please read it for yourself and erase it from you list of references.

    1. From a historical standpoint, of the “Founding Fathers” it would be Madison and not Jefferson or Franklin who would be considered the “father” of the Electoral College part of the Constitution. Madison was on The Committee Of Eleven; Jefferson and Franklin were not. Technically, James Wilson is the Committee member credited with originating and pushing thru the idea of the Electoral College that made it into the Constitution.

      The Constitution states only “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors…”. I suspect that what got lost in the translation of the the Voltairenet article is a mix up between “State Legislatures” with “Governors”, particularly in its statement “Contrary to popular belief, the U.S. Constitution does not recognize popular sovereignty, but only the sovereignty of governors.” Substitute the word “States” for “Governors” in that sentence and the conclusion is spot on.

      As an aside, the State of Florida actually does give the Governor legal authority to appoint Electors directly, albeit from a list of recommendations. This was a big part part of the Bush v. Gore mess, since the Florida Gov was Bush’s brother.

      There’s a lot of tin-hat legal thriller conspiracies right now based on the fact that technically the Constitution does not require direct vote for Electors; that is a sop to the public that has developed over the decades with the rise of political parties. Not only is the “popular vote” irrelevant to picking a President, but “having a vote” is not even Constitutional. “In Bush v. Gore, a conservative majority on the Supreme Court held that the state “can take back the power to appoint electors” at any time.” – a possible path to a Trump win after the election even of Biden “wins” the national Elector slate selected by public voters Election Day. There’s more Republican majority State Legislatures than Dem ones….

      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-election/608989/

      I included the Voltairenet article because of its discussion of TIP, not Constitutional history – and its warnings about TIP organizing a “democratic coup d’état” are very relevant to our current situation. The French have some experience in such matters, it can’t hurt to hear what they’ve got to say. I probably shoulda put it in the “Foreigners…” section, but its OK by me if the link is deleted. Sadly, there’s plenty more where that one came from, and they’re all a very loud klaxon warning of the very same thing.

          1. you said “it’s fun”? You must have a lot of time on your hands… er…, the efficiency experts say *make* the time… and so, it looks like Ricky does the research, John reviews Ricky’s research, and coalesces the information into his CW2 weather report that all the rest of us read. Ricky, thank you for your service! (i say that with 200% sincerity… i would say i have zero spare time on my hands…) and if it’s fun for you, then that would make it even better!

  3. Not trying to monopolize the commentary, but I wholly concur with Arthur Sido.

    I firmly believe that the six months after November 3rd will be the most violent that any of us have seen in our nation, even including the rioting after the assassination of Martin Luther King in 1968.

    What Joe Sixpack and Suzie Que are unaware of is that living in cities will soon become very “dicey”. The association that lobbies for the owners of trucking companies has said that they will not send their trucks into cities where the police are unable to protect the drivers and their cargo before and after delivery.

    This means that when the Schumer-Hits-The-Fan, city folks will soon be starving, out of gas, water systems will fail from lack of chemicals, and the city folk will flee or turn against each other. People will begin shooting at those they see as their enemy, meaning that it will soon go “tribal”. This means that conservative blacks, hispanics and whites will be targeting each other over the color of their skin and the violence will spin out of control, simply because they do not know each other, nor do they know who shares their beliefs, so all will be suspect. Suburban neighborhoods may be able to band together and gain cohesion and social acceptance of others who are diverse…….maybe.

    Why do I think this will happen ?? Because there is zero social cohesion in cities. People hardly know the folks next door and have now been effectively isolated due to heavy-handed pogroms shoved down their throats by DemonicRat city Mayors and Councils. Now throw in another growing round of bankruptcies, layoffs, and closures. Mix in the absence of Congressional stimulus assistance and the fuse is already lit, burning merrily toward the Big Bang of Civil War.

    Preppers maybe able to hunker down in the cities and ride it out until the marauding bands go door to door to loot and search for trade goods and food left behind or stored. They will kill inhabitants at the blink of an eye..

    As Ole Remus advised so often: “Stay away from crowds”….

    None of this is a pleasant thought, but needs to be seen so that the people know why they must now prep before it becomes too late.

    1. “Conservative blacks” – 5%. Not worth the effort of identifying from the mass of hostiles
      “Conservative Latinos” – 10%. Not worth the effort of identifying from the mass of hostiles.

      In a race war (which this is, in addition to everything else), your skin is your flag. La Raza, BLM/NAACP/NBP, and Antifa/DNC will execute their “traitors” without shedding a tear. Why do you think they wear the Che shirts?

      1. The reality of “conservative blacks” is that IF they’re part of team Western civilization, they’ve already tribed up. You don’t need to figure anything out. But that’s true of white-y as well. I know at least one heritage American white gal who would sell me out in a heartbeat to the camps and congratulate herself for so doing. You know your neighbors… Or you do not.

        I’d love to know where you’re getting the 10% number. (No snark). I think the number willing to “tribe up” with non- Mexicans, Brazilians*, Venezuelans, etc. is low as for black Americans. If any. I think the number who reject clown world is a lot higher.

        Not sure how the assorted race wars will play out, but I expect it will be complicated. A useful data point is how well Antifa manages its racial mixtures.

        *No such thing as “Hispanic” loyalty ala Black American. In Brasil everyone was rooting for Germany to win the World Cup a few years ago, because they loathe Argentinians.

        1. About 30% of Latinos vote Right. About two thirds of them still identify as Mexican/Honduran/Puerto Rican, not American.
          I have known lots of 3rd and 4th generation New Yoricans / Bostoricans.

          1. That fits what I’ve seen and heard. It took WW 1 to put the real kibosh on German-American identity. If you don’t have powerful negative pressure (as well as positive encouragement and legitimate avenues to so do), why would you? Particularly when there’s enough of you to a future husband or wife, and the home culture doesn’t have serious problems baked in.

    2. I think you should stay away from regions, not crowds. If you are within a quarter tank of a city of a million people?

      Why are you there

  4. Mountains of skulls, rivers of blood, and oceans of tears. This is our future. And that’s only if we win.

    Here are my estimates – From a population of 330 million, I expect 120 million dead and 90 million exiled, ± 30 million.
    This is a greater catastrophe than all of WWII. And this is only if China and Mexico stay out of it. We may have to invade and conquer Canada as a defensive measure. (Vancouver is a Chinese colony, and the Canadian government is openly hostile to western Civilization.)

    If we have a mere 120 million patriots surviving, well, that’s the population we fought WWII with. If we’re cut down to 90 million, well, that was our population during WWI.

    1. The starvation likely will kill far more people than any gunfire. Most people don’t understand that while we have millions of acres of farmland in America, most of what is grown there is inedible in the form it comes out of the fields. There is a reason that garden seeds were sold out in spring and canning supplies are sold out now.

      1. Water pumps don’t work without electricity. How many days worth of supply are stored in towers? Three?
        Cholera and dysentery begin on week two.

        1. Yup. Water works require a constant stream of chemicals. Some of us know how to fix that.

          Most don’t.

        2. Based on a line break in our area, the water tower only held a few hours worth of water. It is mainly there to provide a constant pressure, instead of the pulsing from a pump.

    2. Not only is the Canadian Liberal government hostile to the west, they have a special hate and contempt for Trump.

      This is not to say this is common in the rest of Canada and with the exception of Vancouver almost everything north and west of Toronto like and admire our American brothers and sisters.

      As far as invading Canada, I won’t try to stop you, nor will millions of others. We may make you a coffee.

      1. *This* is why my second highest number of readers come from the Great White North, eh. Love you all. And we’re with you.

    3. Let Operation Leafblower commence. Most of them are with us, anyway.

      China and Mexico are dangerous. And NATO.

  5. Do you have a direct link to this particular story? “…Concerned American over at the excellent Western Rifle Shooters Association (LINK) was when he said that he thought that no one over fifty would live through the coming crisis.” The embedded link goes to the homepage: http://westernrifleshooters.us/

    1. “No one over fifty will live through…” any crisis that lasts 50 years. And this one will. I’m over 60, though, and am planning to live 40 years INTO the coming crisis. (‘just thought ya’ll might like a dose of optimism)

        1. I’m over 50 and can work most 20 year olds under the table.
          That’s because we’ve learned to work smart.
          I know dozens my age that will outlive most. We’re healthier, tougher, and don’t whine.

  6. While reading this, I’m feeling like I’m living the start of Season 1, Episode 1 of Jericho.

    Man, they should have made that series longer. At least the over 50 crowd had a chance there.

    1. That was a great show, and that is why it didn’t last long. The over 50 thing won’t be evenly applied, it will depend on where you live. The 50 and older crowd around here, a group I will join in a few years, is mostly very self-sufficient and possessing basic survival skills. People over 50 in urban areas and in urban-adjacent suburbs? They are going to flee or die.

        1. As I remember (its been a few years) Jericho was one of many TV shows that fell victim to a “Strike of Writers” and never got renewed.
          And it has been a few years, I base that off the fact after the Strike happened, I watched some reruns, then my “TV digital converter box (2nd of 2) bit the dust and I quit watching any over the air broadcasts.

          Not worth replacing them, I decided.

          I’m pondering “blackout curtains” for the house but I live in town.
          Only good thing about current events is so many people advertise their “team” with yard signs.

          1. I have a Ring camera. Get more external cameras that you can view from inside. Know where your firearms. Smoke. Lasers are not your friend.

    2. That was a good show. Enjoyed it very much, especially when Texas enforced the law. I’m not a Texan, but I trust Texas more than I trust D.C.

  7. Should I shave my chest hair and legs for the official CWII uniform pictures?

    Never wore those items before, but if it’ll give folks a reason to hasten the end of the conflict….

  8. Looooong day today, but I got a lot done. Finally sat down with the D.P. to watch some vids and check Wilder.

    I’m getting another drink.

    In more amusing my news: Just when you think that *your* establishment media are making fence posts look all suave and debonair and informed, you realize other countries have it just as bad. So sorry Australia!

    From Mr. D’s links: https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/america-could-be-heading-towards-a-second-civil-war,14306

    And thanks to Mr. R. for the round up!

  9. No way is it to late to prepare. To late is when the shelves are empty, the fuel stations closed and Matt Brackens Tiger Teams pull up outside your house hyped up on drugs and armed with belt fed weapons (the Left most definitely have access to weapons and people eager to kill).

    Don’t forget to get fit, start today if you haven’t already. Heck, drop and give John 20 push ups you maggots!

    *******

    edit to add

    I note that there are a lot of replies to comments from people leaving leftist utopias saying “keep your damn politics to yourself.” “or don’t bring your left wing cancer here”.

    1. Absolutely! I have Pugsley do my push ups for me. He handles my light work.

      We do need to stop the cancer at the borders. Even better?

      What if we keep California, but not the Leftists?

      1. Bingo!

        Some of us will not be pushed out for political reasons and have decided regardless of the Transition Integrity Project’s fantasies that we will be on the side of the Americans.

        4,483,810 people here, or more than the population of the least populated 25 states, some 31.6% of the total votes here were for the (R) President in 2016.

        My bet is that number will be significantly higher in 2020. Not enough to carry the state. But enough not to be discounted if the SHTF.

  10. I found the Politico article interesting for a couple reasons. First off, skeptical that more R than D support political violence. I suspect that some of the difference has to do with the definition of political violence. How many Ds have we heard arguing that most of the violence we have seen from the left over the past four years isn’t political, it is just an expression of powerlessness, or some other happy h*rsesh*t. That’s assuming that they even acknowledge it as violence, as opposed to speech. Remember the “your speech is violent, our violence is speech” meme? It isn’t R mayors and DAs who are refusing to stop, arrest, or prosecute rioters across the country.

    Second, once again, “armed right-wing protesters entered the State Capitol in Michigan”. This is invariably cited by the left as an example of political violence. Never mind that it was perfectly legal for them to be there and to be armed; that they were 100% peaceful with nothing burned or broken and no-one harmed; and that they left the place cleaner than they found it.

    1. The Leftists are more prone to regular violence. The Right? They will make the Left look like newborn kittens if pushed too far.

      1. This ex Army Ranger/ M. I. operator who has always been more conservative than not… Will be targeting every god damn person who openly supported that draft dodging orange orangutan moron currently in office…
        He has caused more division than any other in my long life. To include Obama or the Shrub before !
        I cannot understand how anyone that is a true thinking individual can vote for that ass.
        Yes the Democrats are corrupt , but no more so than the Republican party has become.

        So yup , I’m going for the ones with Trump signs in their yard. Most of em are fat asses and I know they got guns. Whereas the libtard neighbors probably don’t. Neither likely have any preps either…

        You seem like an intelligent person John , but supporting an obvious con man. Jebus de cristo, even I plan on voting against his known evil ass. Not that I want to vote Biden for sure either ! But I must in all honesty.

        I have been stating from the day that fat ass rode the elevator down. That lifetime democrat was out to destroy the Republican party…from my perspective. It is the only successful thing he has ever accomplished.
        It is good that I’m old , cuz TEOTWAWKI is certainly upon us.
        So far as preps go…well…I make Bison look like a rookie lol

        I used to read Kunstler, until he too started sucking tRump hind tit .
        Please don’t make me lose you also… you’re too smart to actually believe in Don the Con !

        1. If you were going for “unhinged” in that post, as W. would say “Mission Accomplished!”. I am voting for Trump in 2020, even though I didn’t in 2016, for strategic reasons so I guess if you are going to target people you can start with me. On the other hand, someone who votes for Biden when his entire platform is designed to unmake what is good and praiseworthy about America because Orange Man Bad doesn’t really have much to go on for “conservative” credentials.

          I think John will be OK without your readership and scintillating commentary.

        2. Remember, folks, “divisive” means anyone who doesn’t immediately surrender to the Left.

          Come see the violence inherent in the Leftist system!

          1. If anything we need *more* divisiveness, trying to play “bipartisan” has been a losing proposition for actual Americans for decades. I don’t feel the need to find common ground with people who want to see me and my family dead.

        3. Ranger,,,,,,,, I’m your huckleberry!. Where do I send my address, should I send a bus ticket aswell? Maybe a balogne on plain white bread with mustard, and AMERICAN cheese? Always Enjoy you really really bad asses.

          Dirt

        4. Honestly, I think that whoever we elect will likely just be chrome on the Camaro. Plus the people I’ve seen voting for him are the people I’d trust to help me change a tire on a dark rainy night.

          Biden voters would expect the police to do it.

          YMMV.

          1. Sorry John, I sometimes can’t help myself. I’ve been done with knuckle heads communist and Marxist on many sites. We do ourselves a disservice to allow the nonsense to go unchecked.

            Speaking of nonsense, you catch the deal regarding the meat puppets up in Michigan? Gonna kidnap the retard they call gov.

            Bears repeating,,, “Three can keep a secret, if two are dead” another infiltrated crew. Wonder how much this one cost us tax cattle. Another snitch was introduced into these ” Militia”. Imagine that.

            I’m not preaching, I’m just hoping so,Rome understands that uncle sugar is spending billions putting agents into these crews. US Gov, is scared shitless of the white male pissed off crowd.

            Dirt

        5. So tough guy Spud doesn’t like Trump because he supposedly dodged the Vietnam draft. Well, he supports the 2nd amendment, which allows YOU, Spud, to threaten Trump supporters. How short-sighted of you. When/if you get your wish and Biden/Harris pushes gun restrictions, you’ll wonder what the hell you did to yourself.

          If Trump is out to destroy the Republican party, more kudos to him. Both parties are ripe with corruption, greed, and only care for themselves and their lobbyists that pump them with money for political favors. Trump is a disruptor, and that’s why I voted for him. Our political system and public institutions (education, welfare, medicine, etc.) are all failing. Biden and co. won’t be able to save/reform them. With Trump, we have a chance.

  11. We are rapidly approaching a point of real crisis where the next steps our nation will take will be fraught with violence and death. I think to a great degree we are going to be unable to avoid this.

    The push for socialism is borne out of the increasing control of society by people who are anything but ‘salt of the earth’ types. Typical for social networking platforms as well as software and other technology based on ‘nerd’ types you find bookish people at the core. While the idea that nerds are not into guns and freedom all that much is generally accepted what we miss in the process of analyzing these types is the existence of ‘sharks’ within their ranks. These people are not as much dependent on their own skills at technology as they are in co-opting others to work for them and for their goals. i.e. Bill Gates to name but one.

    These liberally minded management and ownership people do not want to face a crowd of rednecks with guns who are unhappy with their latest system updates so they advocate wholeheartedly for gun control if not confiscation. These people are into ‘CONTROL’ and the capital letters are to emphasize their desires. This is the enemy we face.

    The crisis is that we will be in a scenario where we either give up our rights or as we have seen in China, face our own elimination. This I believe we can all agree on. What is an issue is how we resist and how effectively we do this.

    If we fight CWII as local disparate groups we will be eliminated, slowly a few people at a time until the momentum shifts and the deep state (also believers in CONTROL) can marshal the military with popular support to destroy us. We have been labelled the enemy by the state and the media and this will not stop anytime soon.

    Our weakness is our lack of unity as a fighting force. While all of us should admire the dedication and ardor our fellow citizens have to keeping us free, we must understand that tactics and decisions made in that arena which are effective are based on strategy and logic and while great leaders inspire great fighters they are still pragmatic as far as how they choose to act in times of struggle and violence. Passion and a gun are not enough.

    I we head into the next phase of open warfare it is imperative that we establish a unified force concept that has a strategic focus. I we fight small scale we will be wiped out gradually by attrition and starvation. The deep state will continue to hold all the ‘trump’ cards if we cannot maneuver as a large scale force with coordinated tactics as opposed to small skirmishes by isolated agents.

    The future is fraught with danger and we would be well advised to consider that while insurgents can cause great headaches for a regime, they cannot overthrow a government and institute a free government afterwards no matter how well funded and armed they are. If the fighters are disorganized so will their leadership be after any conquest.

    The double edged sword of this is if we organize as a fighting unit before the war actually begins we would likely be considered as traitors and face serious opposition from the deep state and the socialism elite. This is the biggest hurdle we face in actually effectively defending our rights and freedom. This is the real danger we have before us. A lack of organization when it counts the most.

    1. What you have written is of critical importance – organization is the key to winning. There is several problems I see.

      Number one, when the SHTF the first thing that is gonna go down is cell towers / the Internet whether the electric grid stays up or not. And I’m betting it won’t. Do we even know how to organize in a world with 1920s level or even 1820s level of comms instead of a 2020 level?

      So we’re all gonna have some moment in the future where we’re all gonna say “Remember that John Wilder guy who did the monthly Weather Reports predicting this mess? And his crazy band of Merry Men who posted apocalyptic comments three times a week? I wonder who they are and where the are now. I miss them even though I didn’t really even know them. I wish they here and could keep watch on the other side of the house….wait a minute….what was that noise….AAAAUUURRRGGGHHHH!!!!”

      Number two, even if / when we get “organized”, then what? What do twenty guys or a hundred guys or a thousand guys with AR-15s do to “win” this? All the 21st Century has taught us is how to argue. We have forgotten as a people how to work. And especially work together. That’s the whole problem. People have expressed their hope for a “V-shaped” economic recovery from COVID-19. Ha ha ha. Likewise, this is not gonna be a “V-shaped” war where we “organize a fighting force” and clean up Antifa in a straight up battle lasting a week during the daytime, or they wipe us all out in a orgy of arson and rioting in the suburb during the nighttime. This isn’t an extra-length movie with popcorn and a happy ending. This is a plunge into an abyss of a black hole.

      Our incredible support infrastructure (Water! Food! Sanitation! Electricity! Internet! Cellular! Gasoline! Commerce!) and most importantly our unity as Americans are all gems that have become pearls before swine. I fear it’s gonna be a long, long fall and a long, long twilight.

      The bottom line: Who will be our John Connor? And how?

      1. Organization is pretty much impossible at anything other than a very local, very low key level. The full force of the Federal law enforcement bureaucracy is chasing after “White supremacists” and since there basically aren’t any of those left they need to create some so anyone who is a) White and b) maybe a little suspicious of the government becomes a “White supremacist domestic terrorist in training”. People as near as an hour away might as well be on the moon if things come apart as I am afraid they will.

    2. When TSHTF, top-down planning may seem wise, but it will not be available. Organize from the micro to the macro.
      Township.
      County. That’s what Sheriffs <are for.
      State. The Governor, as we have seen during the plandemic, is a King in his demesne. And the National Guard may just choose to protect their homes and families, instead of enforce evil orders from the imperial capitol.
      Region. States can cooperate. Most have standing committees to do just that.

    3. Ms, Goode, outstanding, on point. Couple thoughts, location is everything, mobility, I.E. The ability to move within five minutes a strength. The serious problem is this. Three can keep a secret, if two are dead!.

      If your in a crew, spooling up for a fight, your already compromised!. Our GOVT, fears us whites more then they fear every other race color or religion on this planet. Govt, fucking fears white America!, with good reason. Govt spend millions check that Billions, yearly to keep tabs on us, electronically and physically.

      When the Director of the FBI last week, reports that white patriots ARE the real problem, not Antifa, not BLM, you have to believe him. He’s telling us, who the fights going to be with. He’s not named his shock troops, antifa and BLM, because he and they MUST, label us, before the fight. ” set the seed” get MSM spooled up.

      Why, because THEY said so. “We” waffle on what the mil will do, respond/ not respond, who knows.

      Lastly organization requires blind trust. I’ll not blindly support anybody, nor will I follow someone I don’t know trust, or like. Truthfully, I refuse to follow any of or sides talking heads. It’s amusing I read a lot, see sites like AP WRSA, and clearly see ” authors” angling moving in a direction of leadership. I’m amused.

      Around here, the real natural leaders will bubble to the top, will be recognized quickly, their style their leadership skills will naturally propel them into roles of leadership.

      Leaders are born, not manipulated at FBI schools or War Colleges. It’s that simple. No room in leadership for something called ” group think”

      We’re all gonna do this thing differently, a strength, keeps the pro’s off balance, trying to figure out how armatures will respond to different stimuli, different situations.

      We’re not looking forward to,what coming, yet we see zero options on the table, complying isn’t an option.

      Dirt

  12. What better way for a Holy God to bring judgement to a fallen nation than to make them vote for it ? I haven’t watched tv for many years and did not know much about Trump but the wife is a regular partaker and she liked the Donald . I told her when he won that I thought it was to bring judgement on America . I still believe that premise. Prepare to die and give it your all . You will then lose all fear . And pity .

    1. How is it that Donald brought the judgement on us? It is better stated that he delayed the savage Hildabeast for 4yr. The rest of their camp grew very angry over having their plans stopped, to the point that several government agencies actively tried to overthrow the president.

      Biden and camel hump will radically change America. Providing a monthly fixed income to everyone means more than a quarter will stop working, period. I think that is why there is currently more than 50% support for Covid quarantine, since they get free government aid. Same thing happen in the 2009 recession. No one went back to work until the extended unemployment checks stopped. And now they have goosed the payout.

      Biden and camel hump will ban gasoline and your vehicles with the Green New Deal, after all there no need for anyone to travel more than 10mi per day, so use a bus. Electricity costs will double, when it is actually available. Just look at the mess in California for an example of what they are planning. BTW: California electricity rates are 3x mine, but my lights stay on.

      Biden and camel hump will ban free speech. They already accomplish this with the big-tech “filtering” that hits the right almost exclusively. They side had convinced the millennials that speech must be regulated.

      Biden and camel hump will ban your guns. Biden already selected the idiot Beto O’Rotten as the gun czar to do the elimination. And no, they will not stop with whatever they define as an “assault rifle”.

      1. I totally agree with your statement John. No matter the outcome of this (s) election. The schumer is likely to hit the fan.
        My earlier statement was to mostly imply just that.
        So far as tough guy ? Ha ! Maybe back when I was a Ranger forty years ago…now I’m just old , but at least well prepped.
        Being well aware of the mind set of your neighbors is part of that preparedness thing.
        Thinking that you’re a “tough guy” will most likely just make you an earlier dead guy…

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  14. Recipe for local action.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WtDZYQ7Q-PUhxhv8VuRVfeD7q3DSpthktlYD-nx4pSc/edit#

    So calm.
    Barely addresses what comes next.
    Certainly skips over the side effects.
    Makes me think of Mao and all those shenanigans.

    Malarkey. Evil malarkey.

    On the plus side, I do see hope in that even they think Trump will win. So do I- only one sign for Harris/Biden where there used to be many on this street for Obama in this very, very blue area. How does Trump ‘steal’ an election he really did win? I hate to call an election before the fun night of shouting at the TV, but I say Mega Trump win will be followed by, “It can’t be a real win. Look! He has too many votes!”

    1. I made a copy of that one in case it disappers. Next Weather Report is after the election. Going to be a strange one . . .

  15. If Biden wins, that will be a few more steps further along the path to the greatest socialist success in the history of the world! (even if it hasn’t worked before, this time it WILL! WE HAVE TO TRY!) If Trump wins, i think the socialists will see their hopes for the true Utopia hanging in the balance… and things will soon go *kinetic* …er… besides the ways that things have already gone kinetic?

    ditto to many of the previous comments…

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