Trump, Greenland, And The Caesar Offramp

“Do you want me to send you back to where you were, unemployed in Greenland?” – The Princess Bride

Think Trump wants to Make Greenland Green Again?

Greenland.  All of this post started by thinking that pretty soon we might be handed the keys to Greenland, so we should get up there quickly to measure to see if our stuff fits.

I’ve written several times about the coming political/economic crisis that the United States is facing, and back in 2018 I said the earliest year would be 2025, and the latest would be 2040.  I’m sticking by those figures.  The most likely period for this crisis I’m still putting at 2030-2035 because things tend to go on a lot longer than we think they will – inertia is real in physics, and it’s just as real in political economic systems.  Things go on a lot farther than they should, and in hindsight people say, “Well, how in the heck did that last so very long.”

History is filled with many such examples:

  • The Ottoman Empire,
  • the system under Czarist Russia,
  • the Chinese Emperors, and
  • my first marriage.

Watching history unfold right now with the dawn of the second Trump Administration, I wanted to give a quick glimpse in what might be an offramp to the collapse.  I’m calling it, “The Caesar Offramp.”

Or was it Sultan Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band?

It is very clear that the political situation more than rhymes with problems taking place in the very late Roman Republic.  Cicero (the dead Roman, not Porky Pig’s® nephew) even gave a speech about groups called the Optimates and the Populares.

The Optimates were the elite of the day – think the people who take jets from their Aspen house to their superyacht that they just had shipped in to Port Hercules in Monaco so they could be with all the other people who had their superyacht shipped to Port Hercules in Monaco.  These are the princes of the world, the folks who fly to Davos to get together to tell you that you’re using too many hydrocarbons and probably shouldn’t be legally allowed to have air conditioning.

The Populares?  Let’s be real – these were also the elite of the day, but they at least pretended that the rank-and-file people were important.  They had superyachts, too, but pretended they didn’t like them and also ate cheeseburgers.

Hmmm.  All of this is sounding familiar.

Man, I wish our local McDonald’s was as generous with the cheese.

Let’s skip forward, a bit.  At the end of the Republic, Rome was on the verge of civil war, and Julius Caesar, certainly the most famous Roman identified as a Populare, broke the system, and became the prototype for what would become an Empire that would last for the next five hundred years in the West, and the next nearly 1,500 years in the East.

What really made me think about this is the very real possibility that the United States will become the controller of Greenland.  Yup.  Whereas the United States has had territorial expansions, the last really big one was over 150 years ago when Seward negotiated for Alaska, and the last significant territorial acquisition were some islands we got after World War II, but they’re tiny.

I can see Trump in the movie Dune:  “Fremen.  Great people.  Funny suits, but great people.  Really mistreated by the Harkonnen.  Many such cases.” 

Regardless, it’s been nearly 80 years since we added territory to the United States, and it certainly wasn’t the largest island in the world, rather batches of small islands in the Pacific that were taken from the Japanese after, um, some nuclear persuasion.  To me, this is a symbol of a world in flux, where nothing should be taken for granted.

And, it provides the basis for an offramp – a Caesar.

Trump is certainly not that man.  Trump is about, as he told us plainly, The Art of the Deal.  Trump didn’t seize power, he talked himself into it.  His Populare sentiment contrasts with the Optimate culture of the RINOS and GloboLeftElite, and he used exactly that to springboard himself into power.

Twice.

The sentiment is there, and given the relative polarity and unpopularity of the various members of the Optimate class, there exists a big opening, right now, for a Populare leader to rise up, seize power, and completely overhaul our systems.  Just the fact that we’re talking about absorbing Greenland to better surround Northern India (formerly known as Canada), the idea that our institutions, both financial and political can be remade is also on the table.

I think Trump wants to turn Greenland into an ICE detention center.

I think that this isn’t the most likely scenario, a Caesar without a civil war – I still think that Civil War 2.0 is the mostly likely outcome.  Here are the variations that immediately spring to mind:

  • Civil War 2.0 followed by regional Balkanization
  • Civil War 2.0 followed by Ceasar 2.0 (and likely a North American Unification)
  • Civil War 2.0 followed by a Revitalized Republic
  • World War 4.0 (counting Cold War as 3.0) followed by some version of regionalized Balkanization, Caesar 2.0, or a Revitalized Republic

I find the regional Balkanization the most likely, still, since people are already self-segregating away from the Red/Blue state they don’t like, and that the polarization has essentially already created two countries within a single border.

Caesar 2.0 after Civil War 2.0 would require an extraordinary man with a military background, but also one of public service to step up at the right time with a message of unification.  Think Napoleon, but taller and with a better public speaking voice.  I’m betting Napoleon sounded like a mouse squeaking when he talked.

People called me a monster for feeding my kids frozen pizza rolls.  Should I have microwaved them first?

The Revitalized Republic, while most personally desirable to me, seems the least likely since we don’t like each other very much, any more and the residual community that created the space for the Republic seems missing.  I’m not sure that the resolve exists for the mountains of skulls that would need to be stacked in order for the Republic to be reconstituted.

So, an off ramp may exist.  There’s a vanishingly short time for that to occur, so if it doesn’t happen by 2030, I’m betting that it’s not in the cards.

But, we’ll always have Greenland.

Author: John

Nobel-Prize Winning, MacArthur Genius Grant Near Recipient writing to you regularly about Fitness, Wealth, and Wisdom - How to be happy and how to be healthy. Oh, and rich.

9 thoughts on “Trump, Greenland, And The Caesar Offramp”

  1. Geography not my thing, may be way off base.

    “The Treaty of the Danish West Indies, officially the Convention between the United States and Denmark for cession of the Danish West Indies, was a 1916 treaty transferring sovereignty of the Virgin Islands in the Danish West Indies from Denmark to the United States in exchange for a sum of US$25,000,000 in gold ($700 million in 2025). It is one of the most recent permanent expansions of United States territory.[note 1]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies

    @ that price, THEN?

    Wonder what Those are ‘GOOD’ for?

    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/100715/top-10-caribbean-tax-havens.asp

    https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=offshore+banking+West+Indies&mid=A736CCE57754D296A290A736CCE57754D296A290&FORM=VIRE

  2. I’m betting my money that some sort of external conflict (e.g. WW 4) is going to be the trigger for Civil War 2.0. It also won’t just be civil war in the US, but in a lot of other countries as well.

    I say this because there are too many similarities between what is happening today and the build up leading to WWI. Then as is now, there was a lot of social unrest and ethnic tension bubbling under the surface everywhere you looked. All it took was one assassination to trigger a bunch of bad treaty arrangements which ultimately dragged the whole continent into war. Sounds a bit like the NATO/Ukraine situation doesn’t it?

    Anyway, one of the fascinating things about WWI is how many of the participants finished the war with a completely different form of government than when they started. There was a lot of resentment in the populations and the war became the catalyst for a lot of civil wars, ethnic cleansing and general regime changes as the old monarchies were tossed out.

  3. There are other more recent parallels to what is happening now, with an increasingly out of touch “elite” and a growing resentment among the natives, made worse by the importation of foreign migrants to muddy the waters. I just don’t see the second “election” of Trump as a shift in course but rather a brief, and intentional, hiccup in the downward slide. I guess we will see but while I expect the next year to be amusing and weird, I don’t think it will signal a significant change.

  4. Mountains of Skulls gets my vote. What can I say? I’m a traditionalist. I go with what has always worked in the past.

  5. Along these lines…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hedge-fund-cio-trump-has-blown-overton-window-so-wide-open-anything-seems-possible

    I think the relationship the US has with Marshall Islands is most likely to actually happen to Greenland once it becomes an independent nation from Denmark, which seems a slam dunk at this point. I have been fortunate enough to go on biz trips to the US military aerospace outposts on Kwaj and Roi in the Marshall Islands. What a paradise, and what a mess that place is. We have an ongoing official Compact Of Free Association with the Marshall Islands and give its 42,000 citizens a boatload of money every year. For 2024 it was $324 million, basically a down payment of a promised $700 million over the next four years for the most recent Compact.

    https://www.doi.gov/oia/press/Assistant-Secretary-Cantor-Announces-%24372-Million-in-Compact-Funding-for-Marshall-Islands

    I note that Greenland has “only” 57,000 people to Marshall Islands’ 42,000, and if the US had to choose between the military bases of Kwaj/Roi on MI or Pituffik/Thule we already have set up in Greenland, I am pretty sure we would choose the latter in a heartbeat. Kwaj/Roi is all about radar intelligence gathering and hardware verification (a target zone for testing Minuteman IIIs); Pituffik/Thule is all about getting a warning about incoming Russian / Iranian nukes and flying troops to the European front line of WW3. Plus potential access to natural gas and rare earths. Guess which the US would pay more to keep. Greenland is sitting on a potential gusher cash cow funded by the US and all they gotta do is start squeezing the teat. Always bet on black, er, green, er greed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base

    I hope the Greenlanders do better with their pallets of greenbacks that the MIers do. There, a very tiny political minority gets the lions share of the cash and uses it to buy condos in Honolulu where they live while the vast majority of MIers live on Majuro and also Ebeye island just off of Kwaj with a GDP per capita of around $6200 each in abject squalor I’ve seen with my own eyes. As Jubal Early says on Firefly, does that sound right to you?

    But hey, dream big. Here’s hoping that Greenland and Canada become actual US States in 2025. America is ready for liftoff.

  6. Within every state there are pockets of both red & blue. Take Charlotte, for example. South & east are majority red, while north & west are mostly blue (and black). This repeats in most every major metro, and there’s no way the local police can keep the peace when the economy crashes.

    That conflict will have to work out before a true Civil War can start, pitting blue vs. red states. My sense is that the US will break up into 4-5 regional alliances with numerous city states like NYC, Chicago, Cleveland, Memphis, etc.

    And we’d become totally unable to defend a Chinese/Russian invasion.

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