“It means we’ll find allies on every side. Look at them, the poor wretches are just waiting for someone to lead them in revolt.” – Flash Gordon
When I was a bartender a ghost of a dog with a missing tail showed up after we closed. I had to kick him out. We didn’t re-tail spirits after hours.
From Issue Number One:
- Those who have an opposing ideology are considered evil.
- People actively avoid being near those of opposing ideology. Might move from communities or states just because of ideology.
- Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.
- Opposing sides develop governing/war structures. Just in case.
In this issue: Front Matter – Violence and Censorship Update – Response to Z-Man –– Updated Civil War II Index – John Mark/Ramzpaul Interview – Links
Front Matter
Welcome to Issue Four of the Civil War II Weather Report. These posts are a bit different than the other material at Wilder Wealthy and Wise and consist of smaller segments covering multiple topics around the single focus of Civil War II, on the first Monday of every month. Issue One is here (Civil War II Weather Report: Spicy Time Coming), Issue Two is here (Civil War Weather Report #2, Censorship, Stalin, and a Bunch of Links), Issue Three is here (Civil War Weather Report #3: Violence, China, and Lots of Links), and Issue Four is here (Civil War II Weather Report, Issue 4 – Violence, Censorship, and Beach Volleyball).
Violence and Censorship Update
Censorship and violence rhyme. Okay, maybe they only rhyme in Urdu, and then only if you’ve been drinking, but when you get one, you generally get the other. And now? Ideas are being regularly censored. Let’s look at one tiny example that I came up with off the top of my head:
I went to Google™ and typed in “google changing votes” and nine of the top ten results were all how that was a “false,” “bogus,” and “wrong” theory based on “Trump Cranking the Crazy to 11.”
Wow. Certainly Google® is unbiased, right? Well, just to check, I went to Bing©. Yeah, I know that Bing™ is the ugly step-puppy of search engines, but what does it say when I type in “google changing votes”? “Google and Big Tech bias hurts democracy.” “How Google Could Rig the 2016 Election.”
My friend? Hell, I’m not even sure that Zuckerberg is human.
Huh. It’s almost like there’s a bias. Censorship consists not only of stopping publishing, but in 2019, censorship includes showing people only the facts and ideas that are “safe” – you don’t have to cut off access to the content unless it’s really popular and spreading. All you have to do is bury the content in the irrelevant, and stamp down on it so it never has the chance to become popular.
Response to Z-Man
There is a blogger (quite a bit more popular than yours truly) known as the Z-Man, who operates the Z-Blog. He posts frequently, and posts on a variety of interesting content. If you haven’t visited, I’d suggest you give him a try – he has unique views on a lot of subjects. I’ll warn you: he’s not as funny as I am, but then again who is? Okay. Steve Martin. And Dave Berry. And . . . I want to stop playing this game.
On September 18, the Z-Man published a post titled “Thoughts on Civil War.” It’s here (LINK). For a TL;DR, I’ll throw in his concluding paragraph:
When you start to puzzle through it, the probability of an old fashioned civil war is close to zero, while armed rebellion is in the single digits. Things will have to change a lot for the conditions to be right. On the other hand, a new type of rebellion, one suited for the age and the sorts of people unhappy with the system, is increasingly likely. Middle-class mom giving company passwords to rebel hackers is a likely scenario. The revolution of the future will be low-grade and mostly non-violent.
See? Not a single joke in there. I’m definitely funnier.
On the Right, we tend to quibble a bit about definitions of things. One common one is what a modern civil war in the United States will look like. It’s unlikely to involve cannon and massed men and horses unless the ghost of Confederate Major General James Ewell Brown Stuart picked a fight with the ghost of his father-in-law, Union Major General Philip St. George Cooke over who lost the remote and it spilled back over into Virginia again.
And you thought Thanksgiving at your house was tense.
Will there be armed conflict? Earlier on in the post, Z-Man makes the points that there is no need for the Left to revolt. They already own the institutions, so why would the Left revolt? The biggest threat, he felt, was from white suburban dudes. Those were precisely the people who are kept in debt, and absent a significant economic dislocation, they wouldn’t risk anything in today’s world.
That’s not really the case. At the Bundy Ranch hundreds of people showed up to stop the Bureau of Land Management from taking Bundy’s cattle. Was this something I loaded up the Wildermobile® and took the streets to help with? Nope.
In retrospect we should not be surprised when things we make collapse. Docks for instance, but they mainly fail due to pier pressure.
Hundreds of people did, however. With rifles. As I looked at the pictures, I was surprised to see not only young men, but women, too. And even more so, there were older men. I’d expect that some of the men in camo had never been in the service, but I’d expect that many were. The fact that Bundy was able to round up this many people to quite literally put their lives on the line for his cattle was surprising to me.
What surprised me the most was the number of old dudes with white hair out there. While it wasn’t “nothing but old guys” there were plenty of people who were taking social security but were slinging an AR or a six gun and weren’t afraid to die. I’m sure that they’re happy they didn’t die because none of them were married to my ex-wife, but they had seen how the Federal Government dealt with women and children at Waco. They weren’t dumb. They knew what the stakes were. And they still stood there in an act of open rebellion against the government – a position the Left would call treason, since the Left views people as serving government, hence rebellion against government is treason. The Right views the government as serving people, and open warfare against the will of the people is treason.
Which explains why we’re in our current mess.
I absolutely think that Z-Man is right, and we’ll see people throwing “sand in the gears” at various places when the rebels get Mom’s password. Last year at this time I was skeptical – an active Civil War II represented a stage that was important enough to talk about, yet such a departure from the past it seemed unlikely that we would we see it. We been stable for a long time as a country.
I’m still not certain that we will see a Civil War, but as I trace the developments of the last year I have become convinced that, while not inevitable, Civil War II is likely, and likely to be messy and filled with atrocity. I think that it’s likely enough that I decided to publish this monthly update, which provides a way for me to view over time the ratcheting up of anger in the country.
It’s not been pretty – escalating violence, and escalating rhetoric. Don’t count on your neighbor saving you, however. And don’t count on pulling your pocket copy of the Constitution stopping the Leftists like a crucifix to a vampire when they show up at 3AM to take your guns. Heck, your pocket copy of the Constitution won’t even work at 2PM when they show up at your work to take you into custody after a few of the 3AM gun collection parties go poorly. As is commonly quoted at Western Rifle Shooters Association (LINK), “Your Constitution won’t save you.”
I emailed a copy of the Constitution to a friend. I was hoping the NSA would finally read it.
As we have seen from previous Leftist Singularities (Robespierre, Stalin, Mao, Mangos and A Future That Must Not Be), once a Leftist movement is started, the killing only ends when a leader, (Stalin or Mao, for instance) kill everyone to the left of them. The Right has seen this, the Right understands this.
As I’ve stated since the start of the Weather Reports, the next step is establishing or taking over a governing structure. While that may take several years, from what I’ve seen it’s coming. When Federal power is overturned by a governmental structure, who overturns it? Hint: think marijuana.
Updated Civil War II Index
Economic: +3.84 this month, +4.43 last month. Plus is good. Unemployment is slightly down – interest rates were slightly down, and the Dow was only slightly down. I expect that October will be ugly in the markets, which will drag this down. But I’ve been wrong before.
Political Instability: -13% last month, -50% this month. Boy, did I blow this prediction. Here was my comment last month. “As we get closer to the election, I would anticipate that political instability will continue to decrease as focus goes on to the candidates and away from tearing down the systems.” Oops. Every metric took a nosedive this month. Every. Single. One. A cynic would say that the Democrats can’t field a candidate that could beat Trump so they decided that they wanted to stage a coup in the open.
Interest in Violence: +13% this month, compared to +8% last month. This is a smaller increase than I expected. A related metric showed a big peak after El Paso, dropping nearly immediately.
Illegal Aliens: Down 28% last month to 64,000 (month over month). That sounds great, but it’s still 50% higher than last year. Maybe we need snakes and alligators?
Pretend I made a graph and this is it.
John Mark/RamZPaul Interview
John Mark made an appearance in the second edition of the Weather Report. There was some commentary that his video was, umm, a tad unrealistic. But he is thinking about the problems that we’re facing. RamZPaul is like Cher or Meatloaf in that he’s a singer has one name. He’s a pretty constant “vlogger” who produces frequent and fairly short six to ten minute videos. But on the weekend? Pull out the stops. He has a program called “Happy Homelands” where he interviews people. Recently, he had John Mark on. The video is above.
The video clocks in at two hours, and is fairly interesting, although if you’re a constant reader of sites like mine, there will be a lot of overlap. Rather than give a review, I thought I’d just share some of the ideas that I found interesting that were in the video or were inspired by the video. Note – this video will disappear off of YouTube® after a while – RamZPaul will be pulling it down after a while because he won’t keep his content up too long – YouTube™ appears to periodically purge creators for videos they created years in the past even if those videos met the Terms of Service®. Yup. 1984 was supposed to be a novel, not be part of the Google© Employee Handbook.
- Next step is creating a governance structure for the Right. Governors?
- Focus of the Left is currently an Internet ban plus hate and idea police. They’ve won – they want to crack down.
- The problem with the Right is people wait for a permission slip to revolt – they want for the other guy to swing first, even when they are surrounded and outnumbered.
- Trump really surprised the Left. They thought they had finished history – that they would rule forever after Obama. Trump proved the Silent Right and Libertarian Center existed.
- The Right has nowhere else to run to. The United States is it. We can’t retreat. If we lose the United States, it’s effectively over.
- Does John Mark take off his helmet when he showers?
- The Left has replaced class communism with race and gender communism.
- Related: the only commonality of race and gender based communists is they hate white capitalist guys more than they hate each other. If the Left gets power, a strongman will be required. Why? I read an article today where a gay person was complaining that a bisexual shouldn’t be allowed in LGBTQWERTY+ “safe spaces” if they were currently in a heterosexual relationship. Yeah, you can’t make this up. The Constitution won’t save them either if American Lenin ever gets put in charge.
Pop Wilder says nobody shot at him during the war, but he was with people that were being shot at. No, really, that’s what he told me, which is probably the ultimate Dad Joke.
If you’ve got a spare few hours and are interested in the topic, give the video a look. Like with any link, the only person I agree with 100% . . . is me. And sometimes I don’t even agree with me. So there.
Links
Here are the links – please leave your nominations for next month in the comments below or toss me an email if you’re shy:
https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
From Tom Chittum (yes, that Tom Chittum) who notes – “watch the video” – it’s only five minutes, but if you thought I was pessimistic, wait until you see what the Pentagon thinks:
From Ricky:
Hedgeless Horseman at Zero Hedge is convinced there will be another Civil War. Here is his latest missive dated today on the topic.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-17/civil-war-2-electric-boogaloo-deplorables-vs-socialists
From last spring:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-22/pre-reading-war-america
I have found his various articles over the years about “introduction to rifle ownership” to be very interesting.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-30/well-regulated-militia-being-necessary-security-free-state
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-18/political-power-grows-out-barrel-gun-mao-tse-tung
Also from Ricky, variations on a theme:
And also from Ricky:
http://www.unz.com/chopkins/trumpenstein-must-be-destroyed/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-america-is-in-the-middle-of-a-cold-civil-war
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/civil-war-on/
At this point, a hot civil war in the next decade is the best possible outcome for We the People. Otherwise, demographically, we are finished. We Americans will never win another vote against the horde flowing across our southern border.
Demographics on the national level – you’re 100% correct. Local and state level? That’s the focus past 2024 – I’m fairly certain that beyond then the presidency will be determined by the democratic primary, which will pull them hard left in a hurry.
I read just about every single post from the Zman, listen to every podcast and support him via Subscribestar but I think he missed the mark in that post. Z lives in the Baltimore area (as he calls it “Lagos On The Chesapeake”) so I don’t think he sees the growing anger in the non-urban areas. Sure, we aren’t going to put on blue or gray, line up across a field and start shooting at each other but sooner or later the pot is going to boil over and either the Feds are going to let the rest of the country thumb our collective noses at them or they are going to try to bring us to heel. I am expecting the latter.
The only way to do that (bring to heel) is for the government to inspire terror. Paging Stalin’s ghost?
All I want for Christmas is to be able to spend one full day talking with Chittum.
I think a civil war is a waste of time, when civil servants find their pensions are useless in a penitentiary. It’s an easy fix, and those in power know this. The only problem is that the majority of those in power are probably criminals like Biden. They tend to be like ducks, and huddle in the mud. Where a few indictments would lead to fruitful snitching, the return of even one leaves the power mongers wondering which one of their friends is first to the courtroom.
Here, here. I’d much prefer the outcome of justice. But is there any faith the system works on the powerful?
Well if you still have faith then the propaganda has worked which I know you don’t but how many others still think that relying on the system is the only way…The powerful control the system so they will never be affected by it…
We are going to have a civil war.
1) Marx and Engels clearly state that armed revolution is the only solution to stop God and Capitalism. THE ONLY WAY.
2) Our security services like the CIA and FBI are clearly 100% corrupt. Communists In America and Faking Bogus Investigations are not playing games. They have flooded our schools with Marxism, Islam, and our streets with drugs.
3) In ten years, white people won’t be able to win another election.
4) Eventually, War will break out in Europe, South Asia, or South Africa.
5) The lies pushed by the MSM, Social Media, and the Establishment are unacceptable and unsurvivable.
6) Clearly China is quarterbacking much of this. In competition with Islam. Eventually, the crimes of China around the world will spill over.
7) Our enemies know, and understand, America is a multicultural shithole. One false flag match, and it all goes up in smoke.
8) They want to ban your guns for a reason. Not because they want to get politicians elected, but because they know their RINO’s will be elected instead of their open communists.
9) The coverup will not last.
10) This is only the beginning, not the end.
The fact that I had to pull your comment out of auto-moderation should tell us all quite a bit.
You are 100% correct. And the only way to remove the corruption and restore the constitution is to kill the bastards. Then we fix what is broken, add term limits, no lawyers can run for federal office, outlaw lobbying etc. Unless the system is fixed this will happen again.
Belief systems birth ideological systems, ideology births philosophy, philosophy births paradigms, paradigms birth goals, goals birth strategies, and strategies birth political/financial/religious systems.
The ‘left’, Marxist and Islamic ‘America’, and the ‘right’ Judeo Christian (even if just in acceptance of the moral and ethical code established by that belief system) traditional Americans begin their incompatibility at the very foundation, in their belief systems.
Therefore, all other downstream systems are incompatible. The differences between the ‘left’ and ‘right’ are irreconcilable because the foundational belief systems themselves are incompatible.
This makes peaceful coexistence with the Islamist and Marxists, as their belief systems are established in stealing, murdering, and destroying, quite impossible.
If there is any lesson history teaches with consistency, it is that it is impossible to peacefully coexist with those that want to murder you (genocide) and steal all you have. It just can’t be done. That is the true intent of the 2nd Amendment. Protection from those bringing that reality.
And let’s not forget to add Gramsci and Alinsky and their well established successfully long marched disciples who occupy all critical positions of power in our political/financial/religious/informational/educational systems to the finger pointing list..
The hang up always seems to be how people define ‘Civil War’. I personally consider CW to be two or more parties openly fighting (which also needs definition) for the seat of the nation’s power. CW1 does not meet the proper definition. What we are witnessing in DC since 2015 is.
Those that do not see CW2, again it and ‘fighting’ need consensus definition, must think the two ‘America’s’ are compatible and reconcilable.
I see no evidence of that on the ‘left’. Who as I stated before are interested in genocide and theft and the sweeping of the last remnants of FUSA aside before erasing the deplorables from history.
I still pray for a peaceful divorce and balkanization. History doesn’t leave many examples of that in Marxism’s and Islam’s wakes of death and destruction. Hope and pray for the best, prepare for the worst.
Well stated, except for “Judeo-Christian”. There is no such creature. There are Jews, and there are Christians. These are different, incompatible religions and cultures.
Balkanization is possible, but not in the long term interest of anybody. California would ally with China and Mexico within a month. (Massachusetts already has agreements with Venezuela.) None of the rest of us would enjoy what comes after. We must tend to our own house, and defeat our enemies root and branch.
Yeah – it will be interesting. Perhaps for decades. If we could avoid outside “help” it would be a LOT less interesting.
Well said. I’ll agree with McChuck – these are two distinct systems. I hope for peace, but I think it will be more, um, spicy.
As to the .mil video, a TED style talk is readily available on YouTube. The video from The Intercept is just a condensed version. Search for the Army War College channel.
The first “Civil War” wasn’t really that. I much prefer the Southern name of “The War of Northern Aggression” or “The War of Succession”. Accuracy is important in more than shooting.
Yeah, I agree. It was a case where many of the founders of the nation would have been against the North. But I stay with the common terminology because everyone knows what I’m talking about that way. I don’t think what’s coming will be civil at all – I think it will be a dissolution.
Well said. But everybody knows the first term. Wonder what we’ll call the next one???